Monday, July 20, 2009

The impact of church on sin

Going to church does not make you less likely to commit a crime. Heck leading a church does not make you less likely to commit a crime (or commit a sin if you want to call it by its church name). I’ve known that stats show a correlation between high religiosity and higher crime rates for some time now. It is nice to see a Christian talk about it.

Perhaps people who go to church commit sin because they believe they can always repent in the end and God will forgive them later? Perhaps "Church" attracts people looking for "salvation and forgiveness" yet struggle with giving up old "behaviors and coping mechanisms?" Perhaps it's nothing more complicated then "Church" breeds snobbery, exclusiveness and hypocrisy. Christians just do not always practice that which they preach. It would be too expensive and require a lot of self control. After all, they're only human.

So why is it those Europeans have less instances of violent crime if they life without God in their lives? Oh, that’s right, it is because there is no link between being a Christian and moral behavior.

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Thinking Heresy · 824 weeks ago

I am sure I am preaching to the choir (no pun intended), but I think it would be remiss not to reiterate that correlations is not causation.

Does Church really offer "morality" in this day and age or is it simply a social gathering place?

Also, just as "good people" who are religious as capable of compartmentalizing the more violent and barbaric aspects of the Bible, is it simply a matter of compartmentalizing "good behavior" to the hour or two in Church, and immorality to the rest of life?
"It would be too expensive and require a lot of self control."

I don't get it. I thought the Holy Spirit was supposed to take care of the self-control thing.
I think this is a tough one.

First off, you assume that anyone who calls himself a Christian is one, whereas the Bible warns about, for lack of a better word, "posers" out there pretending to have what they don't. On the other hand, I agree that you don't NEED to believe in God to be moral, however you do need to believe in God to make sense of morality. Most of us agree in at least a general sense as to what right and wrong are, no matter what our philosophical outlook is. However, only those of us who believe in God can give a logical explanation for morality. Those who don't believe in God can't even attack the religious "immoral" because truth and morality are subjective under an atheist worldview.
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Been there, done that. If I had a dollar for every time I hear, "he's not a real Christian', I could buy my own church. And you only God can give a logical explanation for morality is Christian gibberish. Of course others can, and have done this. Sorry, no cigar for you.

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