Wednesday, August 01, 2007

Hitchens vrs CAIR

Christopher Hitches takes on CAIR over the Pace Koran flushing incident. Kitchen hits the mark - Flushing a Koran is not a hate crime.

Via Hot Air

...arguably the world’s foremost atheist butting heads with CAIR tool extraordinaire Ibrahim Hooper over how, in a world where Ayaan Hirsi Ali needs 24/7 protection and American news bureaus censor their own coverage of the Danish cartoons for fear of stirring up jihad, Hooper can dare suggest that putting a Koran in a toilet is an “act of intimidation.” As you’ll see, his logic is nonsensical on its own terms: he hones in on the difference between destroying one’s own Koran and destroying someone else’s, but that has no bearing on the intimidation factor, particularly where, as here, the Korans in question didn’t belong to Muslims.

What is a "hate crime"?

In New York: "Hate crimes do more than threaten the safety and welfare of all citizens. They inflect on victims incalculable physical and emotional damage and tear at the very fabric of free society".

Ibrahim Hooper makes an attempt to show how flushing a Koran is a hate crime, but his example fails miserably. There was no physical harm done, and who exactly suffered emotional harm? Flushing a Koran/bible or other holy book is an expression of  free speech. Hooper does not understand the concept.

Previous posts on the Koran flushing incident

4 comments:

tina said...

In my opinion it doesn't constitute as a hate crime.

aidan said...

Hooper is well known for finding anti-Islamic hate in any gesture or comment that can be exploited for propaganda value.

Hitchens got it right -

"All we ask in return is that he (Hooper) upholds the First Amendment too."

Good luck.

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Anonymous said...

Beslan - a REAL hate crime

No doubt as the third anniversary approaches, the MSM will use all the old terminology - 'separatists', 'hostage-takers' , 'activists', 'freedom-fighters', 'youths' etc. No mention of the I-word nor the M-word. Al-Beeb didn't even call them terrorists. It was just a little local dispute between neighbours. Nothing to do with the Religion of Peace.

However, according to Wikipedia [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis ] our Saudi friends and allies may not have been unaware of this razzia:

"Arab and alleged al-Qaeda involvement
Shortly after September 3, 2004, official Russian sources stated that the attackers were part of an international group led by Shamil Basayev that included a number of Arabs with connections to al-Qaeda, and said they picked up phone calls in Arabic from the Beslan school to Saudi Arabia and another undisclosed Middle Eastern country.[44]

At least two English/Algerians are among the identified terrorists partaking actively in the attack: Osman Larussi and Yacine Benalia. A third, UK citizen Kamel Rabat Bouralha, arrested while trying to leave Russia immediately following the attack, is suspected to be a key organizer. All three were linked to the Finsbury Park Mosque of north London.[45][46] Russia also claimed that alleged al-Qaeda agent Abu Omar al-Saif was responsible for financing the attack."


More info:

"The media in the United States have been oddly fastidious in failing to report one aspect of last week’s horror in Beslan: that several Russian girls were raped by Muslim terrorists in front of their parents and classmates. ..... The behavior of Chechen terrorists in Beslan, disgusting in every gory detail by the standards of civilized humanity, was justified by the tenets of Islam and by the personal example of the cult’s inventor, Muhammad. "

From http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1214617/posts

see also

"THE full horror of the Russian school atrocity began to emerge yesterday as traumatised children told horrific tales of stabbed babies and brutal rapes. "

From http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003119.php

As well as being raped, the children were also forced to drink their own urine. These are classic Islamic practices of 'humiliating' the Kuffar till they 'feel themselves subdued' as demanded by the Koran (Sura 9:29).

The blogosphere needs to set the record straight on this atrocity. The petrodollar-bribed MSM never will. And there isn't a snowball's chance in Mohammed's final abode that anyone would even consider whether schools in America and Europe might be at risk from a repeat performance. That would be just too Separatistophobic.