Saturday, September 11, 2010

What about the kids?

I made a post about Pastor Kenneth Kleckner back in July. He was arrested for soliciting sex with a minor girl and sending pictures of his genitals via email. After his arrest, he stepped away from his pastoral duties, and his church, Ocala West United Methodist Church, moved on without him. I was going to let his case go and perhaps post a note when he’s convicted. But something odd happened  and it caused me to change my mind. A Christian troll using the name What about the kids, accused me of hurting Kleckner’s children via my post. You can read the comments on the original post to get the original flavor. Here is a sample of Christian love:

You all are idiots who probably have no contact with children of the middle school age. They would wade through 20 pages if they are vindictive enough to want to hurt someone. Yes, because the child trusted me, she did come to tell me what was going on because she knew I would help her. Yes, she didn’t know how to look her father up correctly because unlike you guys she doesn’t tow through the internet to find criminals. She was unaware that you need a name but, the other kids told her about your “blog”. No, why would you want to take responsibility for your own actions! That is what the internet has come down to you can say whatever you want and take no responsibility…

Here is my valued added content from the original post.

Pastor Kleckner should know not to use the internet to find underage sexual partners. There’s always a chance it’s going to be officer Fred posing as 14-year-old Sally. How many more pastors will fall to this temptation?

Pretty tame considering what I am capable of writing, And then there was this:

Pastor Kleckner has a wife and four kids. Did you hear that toilet flush? It was your life slipping into the sewer…

Again, pretty tame. So why the vindictive comments? I honestly think it is because I did not agree with her. She said I was causing harm, I said no, it was the child’s dad who caused harm. She went a little nuts, and continued with post after post. My patience grew thin after her 2nd threat. I finally banned her. What she really wanted is for me to not post on this subject at all. Her rationale is that it might hurt somebody.

In her posts she release information about the mental status of Kleckner’s kids, the marital status of the family, and their future plans. All of which are inappropriate. I don’t report on the family in cases like this, I don’t think its nice and they deserve some privacy while they work through the trauma cased by the arrest.

I don’t think that what I am doing is harmful given that I am one voice among many. The press covers the case in far more detail than I do. I am interested in what my readers think on this, so please offer your opinion.

Plus, in a case like this, I am likely to report that Kleckner will cut a plea deal. It seems all but certain at this point. Unless the police screwed up on the procedures, Kleckner’s case looks pretty bad. I’m going to follow the case to the end now though, if for no other reason than to tweak the nose of a troll.

I don’t know the penalties involved in this case, I would hope the jail time is light given that there are no real victims. He is a father of four and will need to provide for his family after his conviction. I hope it is not as a pastor.

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So apparently in Christianworld it's OK for daddy, also a "man of gawd", to be a child molester It's not OK for people to write about the fact that daddy is a child molester because the kids might read it and be hurt.
1 reply · active 762 weeks ago
This is one of the reasons I don't live in a Christian world. It makes my skin crawl.
I guess free speech is a problem to the religiously posessed. And of course it's your fault that this guy's name and actions became public domaine once he started pursuing little girls and showing his penis to them on the internet .http://blog.tildenlaw.com/tag/orlando-sex-sting-attorney/

The reponsibility to protect kids from unwanted information lays with the parents...not with a free press/media. But this logic is lost on some theists whose minds don't work like thinking peoples'. I wonder if she bombarded her local newspapers, tv stations and radio stations demanding they stop reporting on the pastors' sexual misconduct. Probably not. [[CONTINUED BELOW]]]
2 replies · active less than 1 minute ago
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Of course the ironic thing is had she let the two month old blog post rest, it would have eventually faded away. But with her help the July posing is now ranked #2 on page one of Google when you Google ' Pastor Kenneth Kleckner". Of course, the entire page has reports from every news source imaginable. Why she'd pick your blog to demonstrate her idiocy one can only wonder. She didn't post any complaints to the "Religious Douchebags" blog site: ttp://www.religiousdouchebags.com/2010/07/pastor-charged-with-attempted-child.html

I hope when he is convicted/sentenced that you post the full details. And lets not leave out any of the gory details.
They never let it go. They live for the self-righteous last word.
Yes your post actually do harm but not in the way she was trying to imply. It probably does more harm to the individual churches and christianity itself then to any people. I know not many people will do searches online when examining for churches they might want to attend but enough will that any who have had molesters will have your post show up for them to read about.
I dont know who emailed you but, its all lies. None of this ever happened. She is probably some crazy nut from his church. I hope you realized that! Wow you get some crazies. I saw you said you were emailing the local schools and school board I hope you realized that she was lying so you don't look bad. That would not be good. Good job, keep you the good work!
3 replies · active 762 weeks ago
Nice try. The emails went out Friday.
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they are serious · 762 weeks ago

I think you ment saturday. Plus I am telling you it is all fake information, I am being serious. I don't know who emailed this crap to you but, nothing of the sort happened or is happening. I thought I'd stop you before you emailed them with false information but, if you want to look crazy that is fine with me. Plus the school board doesn't open emails that do not have first and last names on them its policy. If I were you I would send them something back you got false information. Or you cannot and look silly. Its up to you.
Actually he didn't email any false information to the school broad or whom ever he sent it to. The only thing he did was inform them of comments made on his blog. If the information was false, it was because of the one making the comment not the one passing it on. If the information is false the school and others should know someone is out there lying about this. If the information is correct then the school should know that a person working for them has broken a trust given to them.

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