Monday, February 22, 2010

Youth pastor Nicholas Carnes arrested

NicholasCarnesChild porn and youth pastors go together like alter boys and catholic priests. At least for youth pastor who love children too much. Youth pastor Nicholas Arthur Carnes played the Port Huron church youth scene by providing his special brand of youth services to several churches. His run is over. Somebody allegedly observed him  looking at child porn on a computer.

Carnes was arrested after police found he had been collecting sexually explicit photos of minors, Jones said. Police confiscated photos and computer equipment Tuesday from a home in the 2800 block of Wright Street in Port Huron after someone reported observing some of the materials. According to court records, Carnes lives at 2805 Wright St.

I’m sure it was just research. In order to understand how one can best serve a teen’s needs, one must first see them naked, preferably in sexually suggestive poses. Freak…

There will be some expensive fallout from his arrest. I sure hope the churches involved have paid their insurance premiums. This comment is most telling.

Angeredcitizen09 wrote:

It is obvious that concerns about Carnes was presented at both Hillside and Grace Ministrys[sic] and yet they were thrown aside. If there had not been proof enough for the law to get in, than the LEADERS of the church should have taken it upon themselves to not allowing Carnes to be alone with children of ANY age! And as to being a paster[sic] at both churches, in which in both, attention was brought about Carnes, how is it that you can be SURPRISED!! The only thing that you can be surprised about is that you WERE NOT RIGHT! You were wrong, you completely failed to take into effect[sic] the concerns of parents and children, and you FAILED to protect the innocence. The only thing you are trying to protect now is your behind, and still FAILING to make admittance to YOUR MISTAKE. Now is time to be the PASTER[sic] and stop being a child!

So… if I read this right. Angeredcitizen09 has knowledge that at least two churches were warned about questionable behavior and did nothing. I hope no children were harmed.

Opiniononly2 writes

I am one of the parents who voiced a concern about Nick years ago while he was a youth leader at Hillside. They AGGRESSIVELY protected this man against any concerns of the parents and children. There was proof he told children to lie to their parents about his interactions with them. There was proof he lied about his background to gain sympathy as a reason to be close to minors. There was proof he bought gifts for kids, and had numerous gatherings at his home with minors and no other adult supervision…

If this is true then the churches involved owe its congregants some answers. If this is true and there are victims, then the churches may be culpable. Churches should be held responsible in a civil action if there is evidence they did not act will sufficient care to protect their children. Criminal accountability is required if the church knew of abuse and did not contact the police.

I often hear pleas for the sanctity of the church or its mission. That somehow the fact the the church is serving god makes it except from accountability for its mistakes. A church is a business, and just like any other business, they must be held accountable for their mistakes.

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It does sound like something might not be right in the actions of people within the leadership of the churches. I agree that if a church does allow harm to come to a child it should be held responsible. I think most of these types of events have happened because churches have been allowed privileges that they don't deserve.
Let me just state that if you are going to state what you think or information about something please have the information correct, As I know the situation with Nick very well from when he helped at the church'. First thing he is NOT a pastor, He was only a volunteer at the church and only helped with events. He was addressed about his actions with students and was finally asked not to be apart of the youth. There was background checks done but nothing came up. The parents of the some of youth let their kids hang out with him not by choice of the church. There is only so much you can put on church's you don't always know what a person is all about. I agree that this man is really sick and needs to have consequeces for what he has been doing, I am just praying for victims and wish we could have caught this but we are not perfect. It just reminds everyone to have your guard even more up you never know what someone addictions are.
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NewCreation · 791 weeks ago

I am familiar with the whole situation you are speaking of. Yes, some parents still allowed their children to "hang out" with Mr. Carnes. Did the church tell those parents the concerns that others had and the reason why he was asked not to participate in the ministry? I don't know. I would've liked to know though. If there were suspisions.. especially if there was purposeful deception regarding his past, the parents could've benefited from that information. Maybe then they would not have let their children continue to "hang out" with Mr. Carnes after he was no longer a volunteer.
I was apart of the youth program he helped out and WAS NOT the pastor. He just helped out. So please change that.
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Opiniononly2 · 791 weeks ago

Channel 4 news just had a story about this. Here is the link: http://www.clickondetroit.com/video/22674838/inde...
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Patrick Merriman · 756 weeks ago

well for all u bible thumpin idiots that man is my brother and i have seen him with the youth and all he did was be a friend nothing elce so before all of you go pointing fingers maybe you should stop and think at least wile your kids were hanging out with my brother they wernt getting drunk doin drugs or going to jail. so just to close this i hope you all burn in hell .
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natalee carnes · 644 weeks ago

you ARE NOT his brother i m real sure of that cause i am his cousin he and i share the same last name so stop tell stories
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Patrick Merriman · 756 weeks ago

well first and for most i am no bible thumper i am further for than than any atheists and yes my brother is in prison and no he is not turning tricks for his cell mate and i really dont care if i spell shit on here correctly cuz you and any one elce that would post some thing about some one you dont know needs to have there ass beat so as far as im concerned you can rot in hell cuz u r no better than the reporter that bashed my half brothers name o and for the record it is different mothers not fathers and maybe you should stop and think there are 5 out of 9 me that are wrongfully accused of being a sexual offender so befor you go talking shit you should know your facts ya he didnt have any kids because of a disorder he had as a childed and his wife left him for it hell who knows you could be sitting at your computer right now jacking off to some little kid
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You must be the dumb brother. I had a hard time understanding your writing. If you have a point to make it sure help to at least make an effort at writing. I understand that you are dumb and all, but hey, at least make an effort. As for you 5 out of 9 assertion. It's bullshit. For clergy, it's above 90%. Your half-brother... he was freak and desirves to waste some time in prison. Get over it.
You must be the dumb brother. I had a hard time understanding your writing. If you have a point to make it sure help to at least make an effort at writing. I understand that you are dumb and all, but hey, at least make an effort. As for you 5 out of 9 assertion. It's bullshit. For clergy, it's above 90%. Your half-brother... he was freak and desirves to waste some time in prison. Get over it.
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natalee carnes · 644 weeks ago

you are not his brother
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youngest brother · 753 weeks ago

So the mother fucker that says he is his half brother is not. I am and just so its on record, I say hang the son of a bitch, or torture him so he wishes we would. And trust me he is bubbas bitch, that is the benefits of having buddys inside the walls. Ps don't drop your soap you sick fuck. Pss when you get out don't come to any family functions you wont like your very short visit il make sure of that hope your life sucks.
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natalee carnes · 644 weeks ago

so what is your name which brother are you he has more then one
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Old Friend · 746 weeks ago

The funny thing is I use to date Nick about 20 years ago and I meet him and his family through my church and his family was definitely messed up...Nick grew up in a home that was very troublesome. In a way I feel bad for Nick that his life turned out like this, he use to be such a great guy, but I guess when family dies or turns their back on you, you do some really stupid stuff. And what Nick did is definetly unforgivible!! Does anyone know how long Nick is in prison for because I would like to have the chance to see him in there even longer....my prayers do go out for Nick that someday he can change his life around and truely find God!!! My prayers also go out to all the people he has hurt on numerous levels. God Bless you all!!!
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natalee carnes · 644 weeks ago

his family never turned his back on him, he just never let most of us into his world, he was a loner and except for one of his brothers which has passed away he kept away from most of the family.

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