Thursday, April 02, 2009

Dining with the faithful

I had a business lunch today with a professional staffing agency which shall go unnamed. I met with a salesman and the president of the company. They were trying to establish a relationship. They had leveraged a 10 year old connection to get my time. I am a hard sell. I tend to develop long-term relationships with trusted suppliers. Getting my business requires a lot of effort. They made their best pitch today. I was impressed right up until they started talking about going to church, Sunday school, and Christian morality. The religious talk was light, but the message was clear, they were Christians therefore I can trust them.

I’m all business. Religion does not factor into my thinking when I’m trying to determine how best to staff a project or serve my company. For me, dealing with a suppler is based on direct experience and trust. As a supplier, what you do is far more important than what you say. Telling me you are a Christian does not automatically equate to you being a good business prospect. Experience, references, reputation, these things count more than going to church on Sunday.

Why is it that people think telling somebody they are a Christian will help in a business situation? They know nothing about me. Nothing at all, yet they make an assumption that can sink their sales pitch. They even went a little farther and asked obliquely about if I’ve every taught Sunday school. I deflected. How unprofessional is that?

I thought about mentioning atheism, but did not do so because I felt it would be unprofessional to discuss the matter with strangers in a business setting. I represent my employer in these situations, it does not seem right to impose my personal beliefs on the situation.

I am curious about how atheists handle situations like this one. What do you do?

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It usually doesn't come up in my line of work, have more proponents of teh woo
I work for the state, which I have found to be generally very secular. I actually found another atheist at a meeting the other day, because the facilitator had us go around the room saying our name and what book we're currently reading, and one of the other people was reading The God Delusion. It only came up because we were discussing the book during a break.
It is sad to say but to some people out there doing business it is very important to them that the ones they work with are only christians. Here where I live several smaller businesses make sure it is known that they are christians and prefer doing business with christians only.
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I never understand that position. Businesses cannot be Christian. They are not people. Only people can be Christian. Where are they going to by their gas? It's just dumb.
It comes up often here at work, and I'm fairly sure everyone knows I'm atheist. But if I had to talk with people who didn't know, I'm sorry to say that I'd probably just go along with the conversation so I wouldn't have to deal with a conversation that would most likely go nowhere anyway. But if I think the people I'm talking with are THINKERS, then I may reconsider,
1 reply · active 836 weeks ago
Heck, everyone I work with knows I'm an Atheist. I'm out and have always been out. I almost never have a problem with it. Although once I was introduced by a Hindu as our resident Atheist to a VP. He was Russian, game me a smile, and called me brother.
Don't worry. Being Christian suppliers means that when they cheat you, they can ask for forgiveness from the great skydaddy.

-- (((Billy))) The Atheist

(My 'name' is too long for your name box.)
2 replies · active 836 weeks ago
Poor (((Billy))) - It must be hell having a name that is too long. God must not love you or he would have shortened it.
But it did put me at the top of the blogroll. (In all honesty, I picked the name based on my (parenthetical) writing style, not because it would (conveniently) put me at the top of an ASCII alphabet list. Honest.)
Thankfully this has never come up at my work.

I will agree with you that this was completely unprofessional, though.
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bigjohn756 · 836 weeks ago

I will no longer deal with any (small)business that touts their religion on the front of the store. I have done so in the past both here in Texas as well as in Illinois and every single time I have been royally screwed by this type of businessman. Of course, this happens with other business, too, but, not 100% of the time.
When I am representing my employer, I tend to be fairly cautious about how I handle such situations. To the degree possible, I would likely avoid doing business with anyone flaunting their superstition like that. But I recognize that this is not always possible.
Sticking your personal religious feelings into a business discussion is Not Professional. Not Professional = not good people to do business with. Scratch 'em off.

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