J.K. Rowling's newest Harry Potter book, Deathly Hallows will be published on July 21. I have a news filter setup to catch Potter related news bits. One such item, Harry Pot Head from pure journalism offered up an old essay from Nutball pastor David J. Meyer called Harry Potter: What Does God Have To Say.
On July 8 at midnight, bookstores everywhere were stormed by millions of children to obtain the latest and fourth book of the series known as "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire." These books were taken into homes everywhere with a real evil spirit following each copy to curse those homes. July 8th was also the 18th day (three sixes in numerology) from the witches’ sabat of midsummer. July 8th was also the 13th day from the signing of the United Religions Charter in San Francisco. Now we have learned that the public school system is planning to use the magic of Harry Potter in the classrooms making the public schools centers of witchcraft training.
I can only say that Meyer seems odd, and that I'm not sure he's plugged into the same God as others of his ilk. Read it for yourself. Afterward, visit the complete library of his tracts for more bizarre perspectives on occult penetration of popular culture.
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57 comments:
And after you've read the tracts, you might consider listening to some of Pastor Meyer's audio sermons here:
http://www.geocities.com/ddechambeau/index.html?1146080918478
Pastor Meyer is not a nutball at all. He is, in fact, preaching the Truth and the Truth is not well-received in today's world.
There is nothing about Meyer even remotely connected to the word truth.
David J Meyer is without doubt the only Christian pastor who I have ever heard in my 60 years preach the unadulteratred Word of God coming from an occultic childhood he is is totally spot on with his assessment of World affairs and their relationship to iniquity.(which The King James Bible describes as "The mystery of iniquity").He is therefore well placed to comment and has great spiritual discernment in these matters.
God Bless you David
Pete (Australia)
I recently put a search into my music player for the harry potter soundtrack being a fan and owning a copy of each book. I saw the david myer recording and being curiuse had to listen. WOW, this guy is so full of himself, and gee i didnt know i was bieng brainwashed ..lol.. to believe i can read harry potter and do magic. It was hilarius to listen to this supposed ex occult person now being a preacher?. And so what if J.K. Rowlings knows a little about witchcraft! ANY good author studys up on what they are writing ABOUT! That doesnt mean she has made a deal with the DEVIL..lol.. to sell these books & make kids practice witchcraft. Maybe what she is trying to tell us all by Harry and Voldemort having a connection means we all have good and evil inside us, and it is up to the individual to decide what they think is right & wrong.
Bonnie Wood.USA
YES he is a nutball and a hypocrit, Avada Kedavra David!! ....
didnt work did it ...
Bonnie Wood USA :)
David is very interesting and a lot of what he says I agree with...the problem is when he has to put definition to things that I doubt he has a greater grasp on. You have to be careful when you find your own view on religion is the "right" one. He also is a gifted speaker which combined with his vast knowledge in the occult, conspiracies, the state of the economy. So, for me to listen to him...I will learn much but I will also have to dismiss other parts which I know are not true because of my own experiences.
I have a college degree in Religion, so I know a little bit about the subject. I find this man has to go to great lengths to stretch to where he wants to be. Nowhere is it taught that the number 666 is significant when added together to reach 18, and what possible significance can it be that a date is 18 days from anything? Jim Jones and David Karish used this same kind of preaching -- supposition, guessing, opinion and a little bit of truth -- to gather a following. Someone who mixes so much error with a little bit of truth has to be looked at with skepticism.
Mojoey,
Why don't you simply ask Jesus--Yeshua if HE is REAL for yourself? What have you got to LOSE? If HE is not REAL then you have LOST NOTHING!
"Why don't you simply ask Jesus--Yeshua if HE is REAL for yourself? What have you got to LOSE? If HE is not REAL then you have LOST NOTHING!"
Except your dignity.
Ol' Davey never printed a retraction when he said the living dead had an outbreak in Cambodia, and it was from a joke site! And is not gluttony still a sin, Davey?
I don't really have an opinion on the matter of Pastor David J. Meyer, but I do on Atheism. Please consider my beliefs as I did yours. I'm not sure why you don't believe in God. But I am sure why I do. God is my reason to live, my reason to breathe. He's more real to me, than anything else in this world. Let me asure you, I'm not the only one who feels this way. Why do you deny my reason for existance? Believe what you wish, but have you ever wonder why you work so hard to deny God? Surely it can't be that you fear he is actually real. So why is it that you spend so much time calling people names and even being a part of an Atheist organization? Is laughing at a person's reason to live your purpose in life? I am no better than you, I never deserved any of the love I was given. But i will hold on to God's grace. I will hold on to my religon. My God encourages me to be a good person, My God shows me the real meaning of love. May God bless you and show you the never ending mercy He's shown me. Give Love a chance.
Anon - Why do you deny my reason for existance? I assume you mean existence. What I believe has nothing to do with you. I don't give a fuck what you believe.
Believe what you wish, but have you ever wonder why you work so hard to deny God? That's so nice. Believe what you wish and then BUT...
The real question is why do I dare to speak out as an atheist. Right? It is simple. The world is full of Christians who think I should believe/act/live like them. NO THANKS.
Why do unbelievers always resort to foul language?
It does make you think?
Mojoey, I see you got a "dollar's worth of fun on a nickel" with that post. I want to put my $.02 in. Everyone has an agenda, and some be trippin'. In regards to nutballs and Christianity, the Bible speaks of 'sound doctrine' as opposed to the doctrine of man or doctrine of devils. Some Christians including church leaders will 'editorialize' by using scripture or any other means to elevate their personal convictions or preferences to the authority of 'God's Word'. An example would be like raisins in a cake (a metaphor from an article by DJ Meyers) they avoid the whole counsel of God and instead use truth mixed with loaded words for emotion, illogical deductions, lies, etc. So if you sense something 'fishy' or as you might sense 'nutty' it probably is. One just needs a standard of measurement.
Dollar's worth of fun on a nickle, I like that turn of phrase.Thanks.
First let me start by saying that is so sad how far we have come as a nation. If you don't repent. And ask the Lord Jesus Christ to save you and Pastor Meyer is right. Are you willing to gamble your soul just to win the arguments?
I'm sorry no job or hobby or relationship is worth Hell.
I know Pastor Meyer and he is not a nutball. He is one in a million Preacher. Very hard to find. May God continue to bless him and keep him.
Oh and by the way not everyone that stands for thruth is an uneducated individual. I own three companies and I'm a retire police officer. Believing in the Lord Jesus Christ does not make you any lesser of a man. It makes you a free man no longer bound to sin.
May God open your heart to see.
What first of all is a nutball? Who are you to past judgment on anyone but yourself? Calling someone names because you don't agree with what David Meyer has to say wrong! Get over yourself.
pastor david j meyer is a fear monger...
thats how that fat apostate who never did fast a day in his apostate life, gets a following...
he is no different that any fear mongering new ager who decided to make merchandise out of God...
he belongs with scott johnson
if you read and listen enough to him you will be a novice occultist in no time...
i say cut his big comfortable feed bag off~!!
make that fat bastard work for a living...
Somebody said to "make that fat bastard work for a living". You apparently knew nothing about Pastor Meyer. His congregation was small...about 60 people. This fact goes to show that the truth of what he preached out of the Word of God is not well received. However, he reached out to millions in his newsletter and was respected.
I heard today that Pastor Meyer passed away. He will be sorely missed as he brought light from the Word of God into this dark, evil world.
Here is some reality. Apparently truth is a blank canvas subjected to every interpretation and wind of doctrine.
I used to go to a nice church, friendly people, good times as defined from the bible with helpful ministries that reached out to the brokenhearted through prayer and fellowship in one accord until the pastor began receiving the lasttrumpetministry newsletters-no longer the bible but rants of personal conviction from the pulpit even read from D Meyer's newsletter directly. The pastor was very passionate of D Meyer's teachings. I believe with the late D. Meyer's tracts and sermons, he became legalistic and fell from receiving God's grace to earning it like JW, Mormons, etc. forbidding christmas, easter, using only KJV bibles, believing anyone sick is not in right standing w/ God, etc. He'd select the music for service, run all ministries. He wanted to please God with any and all. He became the 'HEAD' of the church, a micro-managing one man show not listening to any counsel unless it agreed with his and D Meyer's. Those of you into "truth" who is HEAD of the church? You will need a bible to answer according to ReA;ItY He had a clique to support his new commandments like 11, 12. 23. 46, etc. Not from the bible, just adamant convictions. I don't believe he meant to hurt anyone. I believe he wanted what was best for his flock. People left, one family after another. You think he was preaching 'truth' You may also believe the Holy Spirit is exclusive to one man and is a respecter of persons. if you want to ReAlLy answer correctly you'll need the bible. news flash the NASB, NIV also have the answers to these biblical questions. David Meyer's 'truths' are personal interpretations from the Bible conveniently twisted. I do not drink his koolaid- leaving the 'new wine' on the shelf (BiBlE)
It was obvious he lost touch with 'sound doctrine' when the fruit of the spirit are not evident do you call that anointed? God gave man free will. This man became judge and jury. God gave His only begotten son to redeem a lost and broken world. This man made his son head over a ministry and forbid him and his wife and children to make christmas cookies for a youth group as a gester of thanks because they run the risk of falling from God's grace and getting ill.
To find a counterfeit the US Mint trains the workers to identify a legitimate bill, not endless counterfeits. If you want to know biblical 'truth' what is the logical book to study?
If the said pastor turned "legalistic", it wasn't because of Pastor Meyer's teachings. Perhaps it was because of his interpretation of Pastor Meyer's teachings.
All a preacher can do is to prayerfully teach from God's Word. Many times a Pastor will insert his own convictions, but it is up to the people to go to God in prayer when they read or hear about somebody else's convictions.
Man has the tendency to polarize every issue here on earth...from religion to politics. What one man will call sin, another will see no harm. It is up to the individual soul to go to God in prayer for everything they do and get their own convictions.
I once heard an old pastor say that he wanted to live close enough to the post office to get his own mail. LIkewise, I want to live close enough to my Creator to know what is sin and what is not sin.
We cannot rely on anybody else to decide for us what is sin, but we should be close enough to the Creator to be able to discern for ourselves what is or is not sin to us.
What Pastor Meyer had to say about Christmas and Easter was not to deny anybody these "holidays", but to inform people about it's origins.
When I first read about the origins Christmas and Easter, I did extensive research on my own before I realized it was indeed a pagan tradition long before Jesus our Messiah walked this earth. I was not going to stop a tradition just because one man said so. I even went to pagan websites and studied what they had to say about it before I decided to stop pagan celebration. I did it because it became MY conviction, and not because somebody else told me to. I appreciate the knowledge Pastor Meyer passed down. However, my family does not shun or pass judgment on anybody who does celebrate these holidays. We are all on different spiritual levels and learn our whole life through until death.
John Collins, the pastor you spoke of took himself into apostasy because he misinterpreted another man's belief. The moment he became the "head" of his church, is the moment he quit acknowledging Christ as the head of "his" church.
That's the trouble with many Christians today, they are lazy. They do not want to study or pray to the Creator. They just coast along on what the Pastor says thinking it will get them into heaven.
The rambling and incoherent posts of the lost never cease to amaze me. They slander the truth and murder the faithful with their words of unbelief. Pastor Meyer was not perfect and he never said he was. His weight was likely related to diabetes or another chronic illness. How many FAT atheists do we have on earth, you hypocrites and den of vipers? Plenty. You won't be mocking for long because the day is soon coming when the Lord you hate will be very real to you as you stand before Him on Judgment Day. I have ZERO tolerance for any jesting about this man who was my friend and a TRUE MAN OF THE FAITH ONCE DELIVERED UNTO THE SAINTS. Who cares what you think...you are vessels of dishonor, tares to be thrown into the furnace and burned. David rightly divided the Word of truth. I am a fiery warrior believer like David was, but probably not as kind!
It's occured to me that the poster who said 'avada kadavra david' and then it didn't work did it? holds to clue to David J. Meyers death. Those strange words mean DEATH SPELL. I am sure during his ministry he received death threats, and the various hacked off occultists he exposed threw spells against him. Up until now, they only weakened his health but he always rebounded. This time, the Lord allowed it and brought him home, as no man can withstand the pressure of a ministry like David had for so long, The Wiccans hated him. Well kids, he's out but not down for the count. He's in Paradise.
And God is not finished with you yet, you whosoever sent this final spell. It comes back threefold, remember? This was revealed to me about an hour ago, that Meyer was cast against for the final time. It's a real spiritual war, and real soldiers take hits and sometimes die. But it will come back three-fold, remember?
1)Avada Kadavra spell was around before Harry Potter books revealed it 2) you are a hypocrite, I read your profile and you not only mention you are a Pisces but also your Chinese sign, the Ox. Therefore, you cannot be termed an atheist because you believe in astrology. No true atheist recognizes astrology as valid because it is predicated upon foretelling. Astrology is the clock of witchcraft. 3) Witchcraft is real, spirits are real, etc. 4) You must have been raised in the false religion of Catholicism where you developed a hatred for God.5) Meyer did not start a cult in 2007. The ministry started in 1974. Mostly everyone who read his newsletter never met him personally, but are far-flung worldwide. 6) Pastor Meyer was one of the last of the Mohicans when it comes to serving the Lord. 7) Pastor Meyer was without scandal in his life. 8)He believed in the dark forces, as they are real. How can you look at the world objectively and not see this? It is because you have been tucked into Satan's pocket, he owns you. 9) You are hiding something and/or fronting for another group. Bye.
Pastor David Meyer who passed away recently (june 8th 2010), was my pastor and I knew him personally for the last 3 years, and there are very few real, honest, kind, and giving men and especially pastors like he was. You sir who call him a nut job need to repent, you didn't even know the man, I hope I can be half the man he was before I die.
If he was a nut (which is your opinion) then I want to be a nut also. Because Jesus said people would say you are nuts and crazy and the like for His name's sake.
Even when pastor meyer was sick and near death, he was caring more about what other people were going through, and just wanted to help others.
He was a far better man then the vast majority of other people.
Dear Bonnie Wood et al.,
A poem for thee!
I am sure that you know The Rule of Three?
Of course you do so just for you
I've asked my Father in Heaven above
Who is fire and justice as well as love
To take that Rule of Three
and change the backlash especially for thee
And to up the ante to The Rule of Seventy.
It is known what you did and He knows who you are
One that day you'll be running but not getting far.
I really can not believe that anyone would go so far as to think that any of the Harry Potter books were evil for any reason. I bet anyone who has said or thought this has watched or read any classic Disney movies or stories. Why weren't any of these put out there as evil? Almost all of them had some sort of magic in them. I also think that a great book like this is wonderful for children to grow and use thier imaginations. The only problem with any of these books is the people who have nothing better to do with thier time but complain about what other people are doing. Let whatever anyone choose to do or read be with them and God or whoever they worship or don't. As long as we are all good to one another who cares what or who they believe in. It is thier choice just as it is yours!
Well, I only found out that David J. Meyer died on Oct. 7th, because of this site. What, you mean, no more mean, insulting, woman-hating comments from him? I don't know if he is a "nutball" as this term is used to describe anyone that does not agree with you. I was about to report him for violation of Human Rights.. did you ever hear his nasty sermons that said things such as, "..here's double-ugly Ringo up there with a face that..only the Chamber of Commerce could love..". Or how about telling people whenever you see a female police officer, "Tell them...now look little lady, you ought to be at home baking cookies and making babies, PREFERABLY MALE BABIES.." Like, !What! Preferably male babies? If that isn't the worst Human Rights violation statement ever! Also, I was friends of this LTM and they didn't help me when I needed help. I never asked them for help before but then they don't even answer me, never mind help me, after all I did for their ministry. I used to get such ego-boosting thank you cards from Meyer that would say how my prayers & money "..mean so very much to me"! I posted a complaint on "TheSqueakyWheel.com" site and I got some people reply to me who used to go to his church but left because of the same things!
...and to continue here, I would not say that Meyer or LTM are NOT Christian, just very cold-hearted and I'm afraid others don't know him like some do. I will continue with the mean slanderings he had in his sermons. In his 3-DVD sermon "Why I Believe Jesus Is Coming Soon" he slandered that Satanic man ( I forget his name) who Meyer claimed died on a Halloween night due to Meyer's oh-so-super-duper prayer and said of this man "And he's one ugly customer..". Also he said of former Brigadier General Janice Karpinski, something like: This is a woman. Can you believe it? I KNOW SHE'S HARD TO LOOK AT! [Regarding her stealing perfume]..but that's like putting perfume on a pig..shows there's some mental illness..
But I must say, Mojoey, I believe that you are really not far from converting to a true Christian! I appreciate you posting things about the TRUTH about a lot of phoney money-grubbing, sex-abusing "Christians". I will pray for you that the true LOVE of Jesus will save you. God can save anyone. Even though LTM ignored me so much, this does not shake my faith in God one bit, in fact, have seen many miracles in the past 3 years. So sorry to see all those who get on here like they really know Meyer and who use the Bible as a WEAPON against those who are lost.
"If you don't repent. And ask the Lord Jesus Christ to save you and Pastor Meyer is right. Are you willing to gamble your soul just to win the arguments?"
- I love how you have to try and scare people into religion. This is one of the many reasons why religion is corrupt and I do not partake in it.
To the anonymous man who has a degree in 'religion'....a big LOL on that. We can't study God; He studies us. And your 'experiences', real as they may seem, if they contradict the 1611 KJB revealed Word, they are just YOUR experiences and not turth.
And to the person who claims David violated human rights and was a money hungry liar; you are full of it. He freely distributed materials without cost.
Maybe he didn't help YOU, discerning that you were a wolf in the flock. He had super discernment and sought to rid the ministry of satanic infiltrators.
To whoever wrote the poem about the Rule of Three: BRILLIANT and He will hasten His Word to perform it!
A friend sent me an article on Harry Potter and witchcraft ... I thought the article made sense, but I've never been a witch so I could not verify the accuracy of his statements. Then I clicked on the link to the website and saw his rants on the Catholic Church in which he conveniently leaves out scripture which would show the basis of Catholic teaching on certain articles of faith, and uses others to try to destroy them. May God have mercy on his soul ... he may have thought he was doing God's will by saying what he said, but it was intellectually and scripturally dishonest, and totally offbase. There have sinful Catholics and clergy, who have put a blot on the Church by their sins and bad example, but a so called person of God who courageously seeks out the Truth will find that the Catholic Church was truly founded by Jesus Christ upon Peter and the Apostles, to whom He gave His very own authority to teach, rule/shepherd, and sanctify. They in turn appointed/ordained their successors to continue the Mission of the Church which Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God, founded for the salvation of souls according to the will of God, the Father, and which He redeemed by His own blood, in His suffering, death and by His Resurrection from the dead. I know this to be true. As an agnostic, I myself had a near death experience which brought me into the presence of the Ever-living God, the source of all light, life and being, the source of all good, Truth, Justice, Love, Peace, Joy, true Happiness ... I experienced it all there, and when there you would want to be nowhere else ... the state of Perfect being ... and He uttered, ROARED, spoke His Name.
So no one can tell me there is no God, I know there is, I have met Him, and He is the source of all being. So to cut yourself off from Him is like putting a plastic bag over your head and suffocating yourself ... it makes no sense! It is irrational. You were made out of love, for love ... love according to God's definition, love that is wedded to truth, the truth of who God is and the truth of who man is, made in His image and likeness, and therefore to be treated with dignity, truth and charity. So Pastor Meyer may have had his good side, and may have been right about some things, but I guarantee you, from what I have read he was dead wrong about the Catholic Church, as the institution founded by Jesus Christ, a historically accurate statement, and about which He said the gates of hell would not prevail against it. Christ through the gift of His Holy Spirit, promised to lead the Church into all truth and to be with His Church until the end of time.
Hi and I wonder if it was my proof of Myer's slanderings and meanness that you were referring to.I have a tape cassette of what he said, don't tell me otherwise! I am NOT a wolf among you, are you saying that NOT helping someone when they are in need si right? Look who needs to give your head a spiritual shake! I am not a wolf, I am a Christian who can say I believe that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. Others who have gone to his church complained to me also online about him, too so don't say things you don't know about. Not helping someone in a time of need is NOT Christian!
I think he's dead.
http://pastormeyer.org/
In Loving Memory of Pastor David J. Meyer.
The Pharisees thought Jesus was a nutball....This is a spiritual journey.Ask God for discernment ...Nicodemus ask Jesus; what does it take to be born again.
Agreed
Actually, he IS a nut ball. He preached on things he knew absolutely nothing about, such as tarot cards Ouija boards, etc. His terminology was wrong, couldn't even pronounce half of the terms correctly. As someone who has been involved in the pocket for over 30 years, I KNOW what I'm talking about.
No, YOU are full of it! I said so in what sermons, DVDs that David said all these insulting things. You obviously did not verify anything, you just oppressed the poor, needy & fatherless, and you accused me of lying, well, you must be a woman hater. I heavily supported LTM, then I needed help 1 day, they did not even answer me likely because they do not like being questioned or challenged. You had no right calling me "wolf". People left his church. Well I wrote that comment before David died. I do not wonder why this mean insulting man who also misquoted scripture, was dealt with. God will also deal with you, too. Yes he had good doctrine but then ruined it with his insults. He said it was an evil spirit if anyone was sad over Michael Jackson's death! God does not take pleasure in someone's death. BUT, I went & got reconciled with LTM, no problem, but I did discuss David's mean insults with his wife who told me that she did not like some of David's comments either, that if I knew him in person, he really was not like that.
But, now, 2 or so years after I got reconciled, I'm not sure about their current ministry. I sent pastor Sam a birthday present & he never thanked me for it! Got his mommy & sis to say it instead. They sent me many sermon CDs, with David's older sermons where he said: those scientists with their beady eyes, coke bottle glasses & little bald heads..told LTM it was insulting. I was told that David was joking. I did not find it funny. Now I was accused of being confrontational in their online chatroom when I said that the wedding rings were evil, they should know that but was shocked when LTM said that they were not! Yet they mailed me an article saying the rings were evil! Why did they send me this article, then turn around & say they were okay with the rings?!
Michael J Towne: Please read my post from Ricki M where I proved that in mentioned videos or audio sermons, David nastily insulted people.
Some examples, again, David said, when one sees a female cop, to "Tell them straight out, Now look, little lady, you ought to be at home baking cookies & making babies, PREFERABLY MALE BABIES"! I don't need to tell anyone here, not even an atheist, that that comment is the severest Human Rights violation against women, saying "preferably male babies". Who was David to ORDER women to have babies? I do not ever want children & women can make that choice!
I thought his son Sam would be better but now I'm hearing him being covetous, saying that his wife needs her own car to get to her job, but they already had 1 car. Sam spent a large part of some sermons talking about things he had to fix on his car, & he is taking a neighbour to court for damaging his car. Is this anyone's business? He said that LTM did not drag people through the mud, but he publicly complained about his neighbour.
Or the time where David revealed the name of 1 man who wrote David a letter then insulted him. David said "Some Dr Samples. 'Samples?'meaning just a little bit. But he has got the brains of a Lima beans" just because this Dr misunderstood something that David replied to him for!
You can listen for yourself, many audio & video sermons on lasttrumpetministries.org & verify what I said. Why did his family not edit out David's insults from these? I just told LTM to stop mailing me their newsletters & sermon CDs, don't want to hear David's nasty insults!
You can know all the truth about anyone by analyzing their handwriting by a professional handwriting expert. I know somewhat that David's handwriting which was so strange looking, looked like square boxes drawn around rounded letters, very arcade style, with sharp angles. Not good sign.
Arcades mean someone who shuts himself off from outside world, does not like to consult others but prefers to make up his own mind. Angles mean craves power & admiration, can be insensitive to other people! Also expects others to come to him, not him coming to others.
One of David's nasty sermons I heard in 2021, he mocked the upcoming funeral of Michael Jackson in LA. He said that there was a woman who phoned David to say that she cried about Michael's death & saying that this must be an 'evil spirit's that she needed prayer for! Really? I almost cried, too, when I first heard that Michael died even though I did not support any of his music. I cried hard when Princess Diana died, did that mean I had an evil spirit to deal with? Whatever Michael was, God does not think it funny when the unrighteous die.
David also kept saying that the Bible says that if women are sent to fight in a war, the country she was fighting for was under a curse. I read my KJV Bible regularly & I cannot find any such verse!
Sure David preached many truthful Bible doctrine. But he would ruin it all by his mean insults & cruel mockings.
If I come across specific names of videos & audio sermons David did that showed his rantings, I will let you all know.
Oh, and I should mention that my name is no longer Ricki M; I got a legal name change. Also that when I complained to his young snooty daughter at LTM about David's rant about "preferably male babies, she did nothing but excuse it, said "That was not to be taken literally..being a woman I know how you feel..but his point was about women being feminists..
women have a place..sometimes you just need to let things drop"!
I insisted that David needed to apologize. LTM does not edit out David's nasty insults. They support everything that David said as if he was some above-reproach pastor!
No, sin totally causes one to lose dignity. How does becoming a righteous Christian having your sins washed away be seen as a loss of dignity?The loss of dignity is sure when people cheat on their spouse, commit murder & gets their name published for it. Unrighteousness is just cause for losing your dignity. Sure, Christians will suffer for their faith, but I would rather face it for being righteous than, for example all these money-grabbing false media preachers who get caught doing perverted things.
Yes, great point, Dio.
Yes, I agree. The Bible does say in book of Revelation about six hundred threescore and six, or 666. In one sermon, though, he tried to find 666 in things such as the symbol for recycling, the raised dots on the Canadian $20 bill, etc. The $5 has one set of six raised dots, the $10 has 2sets of six raised dots, then the $20 has 3 sets of six dots. But one cannot be sure if this was purposely meant to be 666 on the $20 unless you check with wherever money is made.
Greetings Mojoey: Although I do not agree with atheism when there is plenty of evidence of God & His creation, I want to thank you for allowing me to post on here with my revelations of David Meyer's insults-a-plenty throughout his video & audio sermons.
I am a Christian who can say that I believe Jesus has come on the flesh.
I am so sorry for the condemnation type of attacks that you have gotten from so-called Christians in here.
No one has the right to tell you that you are going to hell unless they say that if you refuse all your life to accept the free gift of salvation through Jesus Christ, then they can say that one would go to hell.
I thank you for your drive to expose the perverted sex & physically abusing Catholic perverts.
Please know that if you thought that the Catholic Church was a Christian Church, let me please tell you that they are NOT Christian. They have the perverted phallus symbol, the obelisk in Rome, taken right from the pagan belief of Baal!
MlDavid Meyer did preach about that, 1 truth he had taught. I am sorry about the sex abuse experienced by people you knew from your teenage-years church.
Please know that many so-called Christian churches, not just the Catholic churches, are evil because they use modern corrupted Bible versions, celebrate Christmas, Easter, etc, Catholic-invented pagan-adapted holidays. TlThey wear makeup, have ear or body piercings, get tattoes, etc. All these things are wrong so that tris awhy they have evil spirits operating uein their lives.
A true Christian English speaking church would use only the King James Version of the Holy Bible, would not wear makeup or evil jewelry, would dress modestly, are loving, not condemning, having fruits of the Spirit: love joy peace long suffering...
If there is no proof of God, how do you explain water, or the intricate designs in nature, animals, & people? Or that the moon phases can be accurately predicted on a calendar? Or that the earth rotates on its axis? How did the sun get there? Why do the planets hang on nothing in space?
Why do all people & animals die? People will all die because sin entered into the world.
Why do people wear clothing? That was from the Bible in Genesis. How do you explain that each person has a unique set of fingerprints, not alike with anyone else's?
What about how plants & food grow from seeds planted into ground?
Only an intelligent Creator, God, could have created all that. What about the earth's atmosphere that stays around the earth, it does not dissolve out into outer space.
I know you have seen a lot of bad in people professing to be Christians, but everyone has sinned. No one deserves salvation. Their bad examples should not stop anyone from becoming a Christian. Why would someone decide to go to hell for all eternity because of bad examples?
God has no sin, HE LOVES YOU,MOJOEY. God knows the number of hairs on you, He created you to be loved by Him and wants you to repent of your sins & go to heaven forever.
Hell was meant for the Devil and his angels. Being an atheist does not make you any better than the dirty perverted Catholic.
God has a mighty plan for your life if you turn to Him. I want to see you go to heaven, Mojoey. The angels rejoice over 1 sinner who repents.
You can pray about your troubles, you can ask God to show you what is true & right. Again, God loves you!
Sorry, I made a typo, not easy to type from my phone. I meant that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, not "on".
No I do not agree with foul language, but Mojoey made a point that there are too many bad examples of so-called Christians out there. Look at the one who told me that David Meyer detected that I was a wolf, totally mean spirited false accusation. That guy does not even know me, did not verify anything in David's publicly accessible sermons before he/she said that & oppressed the poor, needy & fatherless with his mean words towards me. I was not lying about anything I said that David said, only that I may not have quoted David exactly word for word!
Brother Jesse:
I am surprised that a retired cop would not have done a more thorough investigation on David Meyer & LTM. Police are supposed to be highly observant. You must not have heard his many sermons where he maliciously insulted people.
I wrote a post many years ago in here under my former name, Ricki M. & other Anonymous posts exposing David's insults. He said things like:
"Here's double-ugly Ringo [Starr] up there with a face that only the Chamber of Commerce could love.."
David ordered people to say, if they saw a female cop, "Tell them straight out, "Now look, little lady, you ought to be at home baking cookies & making babies, PREFERABLY MALE BABIES!" You should know that this was a Human Right violation against women, & as if a woman can decide on the babies' gender! I never want children.
When I spoke to his snooty daughter Jayne about it, she said that this was not to be taken literally, as David had 6 daughters. Said that a point about women having a place, which is not being a cop, was being made, & that sometimes you just need to let things drop!
I told Jayne that David needs to apologize for his comments. This was in around 2007.
Did you ever notice the blank white walls inside their church? I saw an episode on the British show, Murder City, where a detective was talking to a suspect inside his home with blank white walls, floors, furniture.
And we should not tolerate you condemning people like you did. Jesus died on a cross to save people from their sins. They are sinners in need of the Saviour. To say people should be burned is not Christlike.
Do you realize the riches of God's goodness & mercy which led you to repentance? But maybe you still need to repent.
You need to see my posts here, one I made under my former name, Ricki M, & other Anonymous posts where I revealed that maliciously insulting "friend" of yours, David Meyer.
He also never answered me when I wrote him letters urgently needing advice. I said at their customer service email that he was not answering me. I got a "He may not have answered your letters, but..." But he sure answered me with thank-you notes when I gave to his ministry!
Isn't it supposed to be Abra Kedabra? A true Christian does not need to sorry about spells or curses being done over them. God is more powerful than the Devil.
Sorry, a typo; should be "worry", not sorry.
David Meyer may have preached a lot of truth, but then he would go ruin it all by his nasty insulting comments which for some ungodly unholy reason, were not edited out of recordings.
Whenever I wrote to David M or to LTM about his nasty insults, each time excuses were made: He was just joking, they said regarding his insults on scientists he did not agree with, David said of them "beady eyes, Coke-bottle glasses, little bald heads & mocking their supposed voices!"
Or when David said the Human Rights violating comment against women, regarding female cops, he ordered people to say, "Tell them straight out, "Now look, little lady, you ought to be at home baking cookies & making babies, PREFERABLY MALE BABIES!"
Or calling other people "ugly" such as "Here"s double-ugly Ringo [Starr] up there with a face only the Chamber of Commerce could love..."!
See more in my post made years ago here under my former name, Ricki M.
Ooh you have an intolerance for anyone jesting about David Meyer, but did you tolerate the nasty insults & mockings from David Meyer? He said once about a man, Dr Samples who wrote to David, "But he has got the brains of a Lima beans," just because the man misunderstood something. To reveal the names of people who wrote to him was disrespectful of people.
Or what about David calling people "ugly" right in his recorded sermons, such as, "Here's double-ugly Ringo [Starr] up there with a face that only the Chamber of Commerce could love". Or saying of a female Brigadier General who stole perfume, "But that's like putting perfume on a pig".
Or how about the Human Rights violating comment David made, when people saw a female cop, David ordered that they should say, "Tell them straight out, Now look, little lady, you ought to be at home baking cookies & making babies, PREFERABLY MALE BABIES!" Without women, you would not have male babies.
When I spoke to his daughter Jayne about this comment, she said something like: That was not to be taken literally. Being a woman, I know how you feel. The point was being made that women have a place & should not be police officers. David had 6 daughters.
When I said that David saying "preferably male babies" there was no reason to say that just to make a point, Jayne then said, "Sometimes you just need to let things drop." Well I would have let it drop after David had apologized for that & had those nasty comments removed!
YEOW, here's a nut all alert for you: David Meyer's kids & daughter in law! One is running the chatroom during LTM Sunday 10am & Wed 7pm church services. She overreacted to 2 little comments I made that were just a misunderstanding. She reprimanded by saying "nitpicking, criticizing, unforgiving, uncompassionate"! We argued in 3 emails where I even apologized for misunderstanding even though it was accidental. But she still have me scolding & advice & she, being much younger than me, really upset me. She promoted the use of wedding rings in the chat, something I KNOW is wrong, David's widow mailed me article on wedding rings being evil.
Then I learned that David & Shirley Meyer said they did not mind if their children wore them, & most of them do! I have been sending prayer requests to their ministry for over 10 years, now they are biggest hypocrites. Even David's widow scolded me for causing people in the chat to be distracted from their audio live sermon?
We are not children! They had a chatroom during their services, if one has a mixlr.com account, can chat there. Why do they have a chatroom for if they rather not have people talk? Now I am convinced that they are cultlike & I will have no more involvement with LTM!
Then today, 1 Meyer daughter had her child dress up as Santa Claus, a strictly forbidden character in their ministry! And that daughter running the chat, she is in a relationship with a man who uses the NIV Bible version! Another strictly forbidden item with LTM. He also had lighted candles on his son's birthday cake, another LTM forbidden item.
I felt inside that something was not right with that chatroom LTM rep. She even seemed offended that I knew that she liked cats and wore glasses! She wondered how I could have known that. Well, duh, she put herself out there publicly on the internet with many photos of herself, which she loves taking of herself, wearing glasses in most & showing her cat. Does she really expect that people will not see it? A smart person checks people out on the internet nowadays.
Sorry for typos in previous post here. That should be: here is a nutball alert. And I saw today on internet that another Meyer daughter had her child or maybe someone else's child dressed up as Santa Claus. But this was all!so alarming
Jayne Meyer, David's daughter, dated an already married man named Nathan Beresford, then he divorced then married Jayne on March 11, 2023. Last Trumpet Ministries was about to fire Jayne when she quit. But why did they not do so while she was still dating Mr Married Man? Over a year ago, she told me not to contact LTM again because I discovered that she was dating him, who is also an NIV bible user, & I told her she should not have been dating him. But I was right. Jayne does not even attend Truth Tabernacle anymore. But Anna, Jayne's sister, attended Jayne's wedding which is against the Bible & LTM's teachings! Now I know LTM is nothing but a cult because I told LTM that I saw some of their family Facebook profiles, which are publicly posted. Their current pastor, Samuel Meyer & Leah Meyer, Anna Grimley, Victoria Liljander thought that I had invaded their privacy & said so in their LTM Sept 17 sermon. Samuel said I had "no right" to view their profiles because I was a stranger! Stranger? I have been contacting LTM since about 2001 & sent them lots of donations! Yes we do have the right to view anything posted on FB!
Police said no invasion of privacy because it was posted in a public place! I never heard of anything so unreasonable! I am reporting them to every authority I can. That is like saying that if we saw their wedding announcements in the newspaper. "There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place"!
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