Saturday, October 02, 2010

Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah

I ran into a beautiful young Jehovah's Witness this morning at breakfast. She was fresh faced, enthusiastic and pestering the hell out of the older couple at the next table. I was afraid she would try talking to me so I turned away and engaged my wife in a deep meaningful conversation. I could overhear their conversation. The old couple had accepted a Watchtower magazine from the young zealot on some previous encounter. She was doing the programmed follow-up pitch, but it did not work. The couple ware born again Christians (and proud of it). It quickly became a loud duel of faiths. The Christians gave as good as they got. I called it a draw.

The funny part came later. When the young zealot’s family group left the restaurant they handed a Watchtower magazine to a man who was entering. He smiled and nodded a greeting, and then walked straight to the trashcan and pitched the flimsy magazine right in. He did not even look back. That’s the way to handle a Jehovah’s Witness contact; no conversation, polite nods, and then a quick pitch of all documents into the nearest trash can.

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I didn't know there was any other way. I always gladly accept the shit materials and then put them in the recycle bin. Unless, of course, I got a fire going.
Ah, the Jw's. They hold a special place in my heart. Even tho they are just another bunch of crazy's, they were the first people to show me that there was an entirely different way to understand scripture than what I was taught. They were very instrumental in getting my brain detached from the mormons. god bless them.
Your solution to the good intentions shown by this"beautiful" girl and your gloating over it only makes you more culpable. A preference for ignorance is not a demonstration of intelligence. It sounds like you are just recommending an avoidance of responsibility. People mocked Noah too. The world seems to be over-run with people who are anxious to ridicule or discard reason, without any intelligent comment. "Ignorance is bliss" only for a short time.
1 reply · active 761 weeks ago
You comment is funny because you actually believe they offer value.
If someone had handed you a stock certificate to Microsoft, you would have been just as free to toss it into the trashcan as well. It might be in one's best interest to examine just what it is he or she had been handed before casually tossing it aside.
If this beautiful, fresh-faced young woman had been handing out tickets to a rock concert, you probably would have admired her enthusiasm and, perhaps, even hoped she would approach you.
We all have the total right to make our own decisions as to what is valuable or even acceptable to us personally. However, many have suffered the consequences for being obsessed with their rights while ignoring their responsibilities.
With all the real problems in the world, it's interesting that you felt mocking the zeal and devotion of a young woman, was the best you could come up with for your blog.
4 replies · active 761 weeks ago
I think you missed the point of the post.

Most of us have been frustrated by the nuisance of having some religious fanatic attempting to spread the word of god as if we never considered the topic before. So for those of us that don't like to be disturbed by such fantasy while we are home or to have someone approach us while out with family and friends, the outcome of the exchange says much and does so positively!

Besides, this is not the place to defend such zealous devotion. There are plenty of fundamental terrorists websites for that.
A stock certificate has value. The Watchtower is worthless religious propaganda. My experience with the mindnumbing cult of Jehovah's Witnesses directs my avoidance and scorn, which is justifiable. There is nothing of value offered by the hand of a Witness. Not even if it comes packaged in beauty.
So, the truth is, you're not interested in intense debate whatsoever, or any other discussion that requires a modicum of intelligence and reason. Your blog, like those of many other semi- or non-talented writers, is simply to spew your hatred. Well, that's certainly your right. I'm sorry I mistook you for someone who was intellectually honest.
So, the truth is, you're not interested in intense debate whatsoever, or any other discussion that requires a modicum of intelligence and reason. Your blog, like those of many other semi- or non-talented writers, is simply to spew your hatred. Well, that's certainly your right. I'm sorry I mistook you for someone who was intellectually honest.
The WT Society and Jehovah's Witnesses are a MAN-originating, men-run, high controlling religious cult-like institution, rather than what they tell people they are (God's appointed Channel/Organization/People nonsense).

The facts prove without a doubt that God was never behind any of this:
http://home.tiscali.nl/t661020/wtcitaten/part2.ht...

ALL FROM THEIR OWN LITERATURE WITH DATES AND PAGES TO SEE FOR YOURSELVES!!!

We got False End of the World Predictions all over the place, medical disasterous policies - FORCED on JW's at risk of extreme shunning.

We got flip flops, blinking lights, wacky science, historical failures, arrogance, judging other religions and people of those religions and LOADS of WT Society embarrassments and humiliations throughout their entire 100+ year history!

God had nothing to do with all that nonsense that was called, "Food from God" by all JW's even down to this day.

It was WRONG when it first came off the presses!

So why are some today opposed to Jehovah's Witness and their policies?

DEAD PEOPLE is why.

RUINED LIVES is why.

FALSE PROPHECIES is why.

An arrogant, controlling Religious Institution is why.

They are WRONG ON BLOOD TODAY (for 68 years now).

They are WRONG ON SHUNNING those that simply walk away from the JW religion today. (nowhere in bible)

They are WRONG 607 BCE and 1914.

They were WRONG ABOUT FORBIDDING Vaccinations, Organ Transplants, Alternative Service and much more.

They were wrong on ALL OF THEIR End of World Predictions in writing. Wrong on marital infidelity rules, rape rules, beards, 1935, Beth Sarim and too many things to bother listing here.

Did ((( GOD ))) make all of these terrible decisions to force on all the JW's as "food at the proper time", and then change his mind later on?

Or was is just a bunch of MEN, that make up the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses (sitting up in some Brooklyn office somewhere) making these poor decisions, FORCING them on all JW's and then afterwards conveniently change their mind?

Does God serve Bad Food like this?

Perhaps He is not a very good cook?

Shunning people for disagreements is NOT scriptural!

Shunning people for walking away from the JW faith is NOT scriptural!

This is a CONTROL mechanism. And it often works. It is a gross misapplication of scripture to keep the average JW towing the line.

THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNITY AND FORCED UNIFORMITY.

Jw's are not allowed to even THINK differently.

I WAS a JW, and an elder as well, until recently in 2006 when I walked away. I am very familiar with how they are actually WORSE than most other faiths today. I am shunned for walking away. People today and for the last 80 years have died, without reason, due to the WT medical policies forced on all JW's.

Each week is filled with a list of JW obligations that basically OWN YOU. You are told what you can read, what movies are acceptable, what association is acceptable, what facial hair is okay. What you can celebrate and cannot. What words you are allowed to use.

What is allowed in your own bedroom with your wife. And too many other things to list here again. Before knowing all the facts and believing they were God's True Channel, one can go a very long way to justify all of these things. Take away that one true faith belief and so falls the rest.

I have been there and done all that.

JW's are told they cannot take blood transfusions in situations where they might need one (such as through accidents or complications with surgery, pregnancy or child birth).

So, naturally, more JW's will die.

Just like this mother died unnecessarily!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/shrops...

And now her husband has no wife and her two new twins have no mother.

And all for what?

Or this teenager that also DIED: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_m...

This is very simple. JW's NEEDLESSLY die for this sorry blood policy today.

From the same organization that has an entire 100 + year history of similar bad and embarrasing policies.

This is why I suggest to anybody thinking of becoming a JW ... to READ READ AND READ UP ON THIS RELIGION FIRST!

The proof will clearly stand out that the JW faith is not what they try to tell people they are!

The facts are Irrefutable.

Vinny
1 reply · active 747 weeks ago
i am a witness too ,the religous leaders of jesus time thought he was mad and a lier too the 12 apostles you could say were gods witnesses at the time and there were many imperfections among them quarreling over who was greater and the list goes on ,even a traiter judas.doesnt mean the disciples werent his disiples because of ther mistakes.just like the jehovahs witness who proudly use his name.all the gods of egypt can you name one, probably not the sciptures say that he will make his name known .in sudan gods name was uncovered again in an ancient temple the other gods forgotten.
I have been a baptisted witness for two years and never has anyone told me what I can and cannot do or think. I read all the stories about how JW are a cult and all the supposed things that are wrong with the religion and how false it is. However, I did a lot of research and tested what the witnesses believe. I found that all the horror stories are either lies or just taken out of context. The people are not perfect but the beliefs are more consistent with the bible than any other religion.
Vinny, i find it hard to believ you were an elder as you got much of the basic beliefs completely wrong. Shouldnt an elder know the basic beliefs of an organization that you would have to spend years and yaers studying to become an elder?
I understand if you want to hate, its your choice. But my suggestion to people is...Before you hate something, know what you are hating. People like Vinny are a poision to all. It is obvious that he is a liar about being an elder....what else is he making up as well? Read the gospels (matthew, mark, Luke and John, then go to a couple of Sunday morning meetings and see if they are teaching the opposite of what just those 4 Books are saying...MAKE YOUR OWN MIND UP
everyone here is funny hahaha
I lopve reading comments on JW bashers, ONe thing about the witnesses is they are known for the love they show, no other religion shows it as a whole groupe, and they are in harmony with there teachings no mater who they are or where they live. You could go anywhere in the world and if your a witness you can stay at a witness house, tell me which other religion does that.

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