Hey, if PZ Myers things Chad Farnan is an idiot, who am I to argue? And why would I?
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Hey, if PZ Myers things Chad Farnan is an idiot, who am I to argue? And why would I?
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deleted609912 88p · 836 weeks ago
Smarter then you · 831 weeks ago
dromedaryhump 19p · 836 weeks ago
If a christian teacher had said that evolution is an unproven atheistic mindset we'd be up in arms. We should not discriminate between inapropriate absolutist comments on belief/non-belief in a public school class room regardless if they are made by an atheist teacher or a religious one.
If we want sep. of church and state ... we should insist it goes both ways in the class. DON'T FUCKIN ENTERTAIN IT! is a simple rule to follow.
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Jack 119p · 836 weeks ago
Heather · 817 weeks ago
My sophomore year I had both teachers and GUESS WHAT? I formed my own opinions. I didn't take either teacher to court to waste years and taxpayer dollars.
dromedaryhump 19p · 836 weeks ago
The class room is no place to aire your perspective on religiously held belief... and yes, creationism is religiously inspired. There are ways to move creationism off the table without using the class room as a soap box, or shitting on people's stupid beliefs which one knows, or should know, will cause distress among some portion of the students. He should simply have said: "Creationism is not a scientific theory, and we won't be discussing it here." and that would have been the end of that.
But no... he wanted to infuse his personal perspective and obvious (and justifiable) disgust and dismissiveness. Fine, and kudos to him. Now he needs to take the medicine that comes with breaking the sep. of church and state prohbition.
Hump
dromedaryhump 19p · 836 weeks ago
you are saying there are absolute truths? Hmmm. I reject that.
But thats neither here nor their. What is or isn't true doesn't come into play when discussing the sep. of church and state. They are to be kept apart, and religion / or lack thereof should not be a football in the class room.
The position of Atheism is "true", as far as you and I are concerened. But the class room is no more place for the science teacher to espouse THAT truth, than there is for him to discuss the falacy/ "untruth" of religious dogma.
What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. We can't have it just one way in our favor. We need to be reasonable and fair or we undermine our position on the Wall of Separation.
His job is to teach science and to avoid religious entanglement. He opted NOT to do that. He was wrong.
Hump
WILL JONES · 836 weeks ago
dromedaryhump 19p · 836 weeks ago
Obviously if it was the "end of the story", there wouldn't have been a court case.
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Tom Leykis · 716 weeks ago
Kitzmiller vs. Dover Area School District
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_...
ChadFarnan · 835 weeks ago
Rick · 835 weeks ago
Rick · 835 weeks ago
The eyes of Texas are upon him, and also the eyes of the other 56 states visited by the founder of his religion, guess from now on it would behoove the purveyors of dis-unifying, de-construction to leave their Obamaianity at the school house door as they enter, and stick to the History Lessons prescribed by their job description. Be assured nobody blames James, one of many who no doubt have suffered educational abuse themselves, maybe even you, and US understand he was just acting out a cry for help. We will gladly welcome him back into the Family of The Faithful as he learns to moderate his un-acceptable impulses while in the position of Care-Taker of the Future Intellect of this Great Nation, and We are Praying, as encouraged by the New Spiritual Leader, in private, that those who have been bent in this direction will see the error of their ways and stop attempting to lay cuckoo eggs in the minds of the young and impressionable.
Live long and prosper
Rick · 835 weeks ago
Mo,
Sometimes US want to Ralph when WE see Emerson quoted to support a de-nigration of Founding Principles and emotional, un-critical support for bone-headed educational dis-integrational bi-polarism in the classroom. US want to move on, why can't y'all?
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