Thursday, January 11, 2007

Fundie Quote - Frosty Hardison

Speaking in reference to Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth.

"The Bible says that in the end times everything will burn up, but that perspective isn't in the DVD."

Source: Federal Way schools restrict Gore film

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

it's unbelievable how american society kow-tows to these morons. we are the laughing stock of the thinking world.

Andy Dabydeen said...

Frosty Hardison, computer consultant and PowerPoint geek.

http://www.columbusdispatch.com/national/national.php?story=190762

Also an all round trouble maker.

mn said...

Somebody ought to tell Frosty that there are many of us who don't want the world to burn up, which is why we are going to work to stop global warming. Of course, Frosty is doing his best to make sure there are plenty of carbon profiles in the future with his 7 kids.

FHardison said...

Hello all. Frosty E Hardison here. Yeah it’s really ME!

Thanks for reading and for the polarization of the believers and scoffers. Did anyone of you get the point of the article?

On something as simple as global warming? There is in fact NOTHING you can do about global warming. Which was the point I made to the P.I. reporter. It’s the sun that is burning out. Al Gore’s presentation doesn’t include that perspective. His presentation should be called the “Incomplete Truth” The Bible says this in Revelations 16:8,9 (KJV) see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribulation.

On something as simple as the age of the earth? I can do the math, the lineage provided in Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3:23-38 that give the genealogy of Jesus Christ (Matthew recorded Joseph's lineage, while Luke gave the family tree of Mary) places us at what right about 12,000 years today? See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy_of_Jesus


On something as simple as faith? You either have it or you don’t. coherent

On something as simple as having a testimony that Jesus Christ has taken an active part in your life? You either have one or you don’t. If you don’t have it, you walk around in life an empty shell – often times you don’t even know it. Once you are filled with HIM and the unconditional love that He is? You KNOW what it was to be empty and you want to help others discover the truth too.

As far as science goes? Observational science and speculation of new ideas? Oh yeah, what we see is what we get. Or is it an optical illusion? I have no problems keeping an open mind for new ideas, perspectives and sources of information… the thing is, even under strict circumstances can we as fallible humans be mis-interpreting the data that is being read? As a data and systems analyst I have to ask that question all the time. Same goes for the carbon 14 factor. Where do the calculations come from that the world is several billions of years old when carbon 14 data is only good for a few thousand years? Then when you look at the methodology of HOW carbon 14 itself is produced you come into several variances to consider as well. Under what circumstances are there fewer occurrences of C14 being produced – what increases and what decreases it? Is it steady? Is it stable? What factors produce the absorption rates into tissues, fossils and specimens we are looking at? Do they differ or vary by diet, climate, solar variances? As a hobbyist in science myself, I at least still ask those questions.

I would rather have a human witness to cross examine than a machine of any kind – any day. Neither are infallible, but at least one of them can reason, think and extrapolate a conclusion weighing ALL the evidence rather than a preprogrammed set of line codes that can be out of calibration at any given time.

And if you want a spokes person for global warming – I would have chosen Ben Stein! Not AL Gore. Have a wonderful day.

Anonymous said...

What I don't understand about the "Frosty Hardisons" of the world is, they seem to engage in "selective" science.

Take for example - advanced medicines. With 7 chill=dren, Hardison definately does not use birthcontrol (maybe he should) but with a brood like that, you can BET he uses advanced medicine whenever his pediatrician prescribes it.

And all of those medicines are based on the SAME SCIENCE that was used to determine that a buildup of gasses is occuring in the atmosphere.

Does "Frosty the no-man" deny the existence of these gasses? If so, he is guilty of selective use of science. Sure he uses the drugs resulting from chemistry, but when those same chemists notice this excess of compound in the atmophere, does he deny?

If no, what is his explanation for what they are doing "as they accumulate in ever increasing number?"

Definately a wing-nut!

timot13 said...

Frosty commented that he bases the earths age on the genealogy of Joseph and Mary. You need to read closely Frosty. The multiple accounts of their separate genealogies presented in the bible do not match. You would think that an all-powerful god would have been a little more particular. The real problem though, is believing that you can measure the age of the earth from a fairy tale. Frosty, please, read a couple books or take a science class.

EdmundFitz said...

Frosty is an extremist; he has latched on to a concept called 'faith.' With his faith held up as a shield, Frosty and his ilk espouse their extreme views and dismiss all contrary views merely by screaming "faith!" "faith!" Arguing with him (and his ilk) is like banging your head against a brick wall. The question that I don't understand is how the school system would permit this foolishness from showing the movie. There will always be mentally defective people, but it should be within the discretion of the school system to weed out the wackos and prevent them from interfering with the education of the kids.

Anonymous said...

First, how is one supposed to take a person by the name of "Frosty" seriously? Secondly, he/it is not living in reality. He needs to grow up and get his head out of his a**. His only apparent objective is to raise 7 more beings more ignorant than himself. He says "faith, you either have it or you don't." You are so right Mr. Frost-bite...I have faith that if we allow idiots like you to continue procreating the world will certainly burn faster than if you never existed. I also have faith that God's son would have forgiven you for being a moron...so will I.

Sincerely,

Michelle B, Houston, TX

Mark said...

Ok so, Mr Frosty. The point here is this: You are ignorant, Al Gore has a masters degree and many years of study on this. You have absolutely no basis for your belief.

Your "Bible" is a book flawed by mankind. Can you, Mr. Frosty provide anyone with PROOF that the Bible was written by anyone other than man? No, and niether can most theologians. In fact, if you educated yourself you would find that ALL Biblical scholars agree the earliest known documents pertaining to your precious belief date back to 400 C.E., that's Common Era, or does A.D. fit you better.

Jesus, a man who did exist, would be ashamed of you! Too bad that he can not mystically help you now. I feel sorry for your 7 children. Have you ever thought of a vicectomy? Might not be a good idea to spread that scientific knowledge called DNA and Genetics around if you are destined to be stupid and ignorant. Please keep your Jesus off my penis and your Bible out of the school system I pay for, take your kids to Private Christian School... Oh you can not do that? Oh.. you can not afford to because you can't keep your reproductive organs in line and only breed what you can afford? Well then deal with it you ignorant human.

Anonymous said...

it was the US that caused the climate change... in europe we use to call a frosty man an arrogant man ;-) i wondered al-gore made that movie. i ve been impressed...but this frosty engagement destroys everything, europeans hoped the us will change to...
good luck... US...in competition with china at climate destroying challenge

Anonymous said...

The sun is burning out? Green house gases must have NOTHING to do with it then. Remember back in the day when Doctor's did ads for cigarettes? Well, I guess it has become clear that smoking behavior predicts a particular outcome(cancer, death, etc). Now we know, because we see it. Some of us did not want to heed the warnings at the time. Now, should we ignore Al's call for a reduction in gases and respect for the environment? Or should we just wait for the earth to burn up. Oh wait, maybe those gases are bad for our health too.

Let's not stray from the main point here, though. Obviously there are some opinions - some conflicting points of view. Here's an idea. Frosty, when you have something that is solid and as worthy of publication as "An Inconvenient Truth", maybe you can get the word out on your views. (Key word= worthy) Of course, you won't be able to use the Bible to support your arguments, because it is as unproven as you say carbon dating is. So come up with something else. Meanwhile, keep your opinions out of school - and if you don't like the education, keep your kids out too. That's just so we can all just get along. Thanks!

PS I have actually read and studied the bible too; faith is irrelevant.

Dave Waugh said...

I think Frosty does a great job of demonstrating the tremendous danger presented by religious extremists, whether they be the Taliban or Christian nut cases, they all present a real and present danger to all of us. The focus of the "War on Terror" has been off target. Instead, we need to be making every effort to protect ourselves from religious fundamentalism in all of its most base forms. In the case of American Christian extremists, these sad lost souls are nothing more than (to quote a great author) “a sort of death cult composed of people unaware that their own lifestyle has driven them crazy.” However, this does not reduce the vast danger these persons represent!

Anonymous said...

hi!
first of all excuse my bad english. the only thing i would say is that we are laughing also in europe. it's incredible what people is thinking and doing in the name of god. it's so incredible stupid.

greetings

FHardison said...

Let's cover the fact that I have 7 awesome kids... Maybe I saw the movie "Revenge of the Nerds" too many times. Maybe I wanted my marriage to survive enough to have read every John Gray book I could find on relationships? Maybe it's that I wanted a covenant marriage?

Maybe my secret is I read constantly? Maybe my secret is Boshido, honor, chivalry, class and sure "old fasshioned values"?

You really should be asking yourself - "What secret does this guy have? To be married to his best friend? To still love her more today than when we got married? To have a Godly marriage covenant?"

YOU should be so lucky.

As for our original arguement against Al Gore's video? Go ahead and read my "Manifesto". Let the TRUTH set you free. Empower yourself and see what is MISSING from Al Gore's video. Educate yourself. Understand what the underlying purpose is for Al's video. The wisdom is hard to face when it is so obvious.

I must know SOMETHING more than you do. If you were as blessed a man or woman as my wife and I are in the love, success and friendship we have in our textbook marriage - You would

Anonymous said...

i think you are a seer.. but it seems that you are blind. i'm really happy for you if you are so lucky und happy... but it's easy to be happy ignoring strictly the reality, the science and other things and to believe blind.. to think that an old book is the only -> "truth".. my dear frosty... i think this is my inconvenient truth for you... fact is that we are destrying our planet (i'll call it god's creation for you). it seems you know a lot(that's not enough), you are not able to understand what you "know".. it's like a puzzle, but you aren't able to compose it.

FHardison said...

Perhaps you are right, I am a seer. But it's not that I am blind, I am but a fool, trying to save the lost that do not know they are lost. I am trying to reason with those educated in the ways of this world, that have lost integrity, honor and the path of the old ways of life. I am but a voice in the wind casting pearls to you who do not recognize wisdom, those too busy fearing the darkness that they cannot see the light in front of them.

My appologies.

I leave you with this... when you are sick and your scientists and medicines cannot help you... when you are dying and your flesh is rotting off your body... when you are in torment but you cannot die... to whom will you beg for forgiveness? To whom will you call out in desperation for just a glimpse of hope? Remember these words, for that time is now.

Jesus Christ is Love. If had a testimony and a personal relationship with Him - like I have - you would know this for yourself. His love for you is an encompassing love you do not know. A security you may never know. A truth only a decision away. He is the way, the Truth and the light... by no other name will you be accepted in Heaven and allowed to pass. He died for you! It is up to you to accept His sacrifice.

Christians and followers of Jesus Christ stand at the door and knock... the Taliban, will break down your door and cut your head off, and mercilessly hack the heads off your kids and rape your daughters in front of you before they kill you too... and yet it is me you fear? Wow. There's YOUR inconvenient truth.

Anonymous said...

I think its great to have SO many americans want to say, "WE are destorying the Earth". We should send that to Iraq so they have some more things to want to attack our country for.

"it was the US that caused the climate change... in europe we use to call a frosty man an arrogant man ;-) i wondered al-gore made that movie. i ve been impressed...but this frosty engagement destroys everything, europeans hoped the us will change to...
good luck... US...in competition with china at climate destroying challenge"

Please send that to an Iraq web page!

Someone said "Keep your opinions out of the school I paid for."
First off, many people pay for that. Many people want to have their beliefs sheared in class but are afraid because of people like you. Is this not a free country any more?

I think that many of you should be moved out of the country.


"First, how is one supposed to take a person by the name of "Frosty" seriously? Secondly, he/it is not living in reality. He needs to grow up and get his head out of his a**. His only apparent objective is to raise 7 more beings more ignorant than himself. He says "faith, you either have it or you don't." You are so right Mr. Frost-bite...I have faith that if we allow idiots like you to continue procreating the world will certainly burn faster than if you never existed. I also have faith that God's son would have forgiven you for being a moron...so will I.

Sincerely,

Michelle B, Houston, TX"

To bad you weren't given a name that would have you grow up being picked on all of your life. Maybe you'd take back your word. I being a girl, think that some women, like you, should have your rights taken away for a little while, just to show you how many people are still being treated today.

I don't blam the other countries for laughing. I would laugh too if a reporter couldn't get a story right and messed up ALL the lives that people lived. It's great to see that our country is falling so quickly appart. I hope that this global warming thing is working out for you. Has anyone watched the new lately? Damn! What is that snow!? I don't know about the Warming thing. Not saying it isn't happening, but...I'm freezing here. I'm going to go take this up to someone. Can't wait for the summer. Wouldn't that be a "Blast"?

If you think standing up for your rights is wrong: Please move out of the country so more immigrants can take your place. Many people want in, that are willing to fight for those rights.

I hear that their are some people who can put a gun to your head in Iraq. They FORCE their beliefs on you there, or they kill you. Too bad we don't have that here though, huh?

S.Winters

Anonymous said...

Frosty
If we are really going to have the kind of balance you call for, we should also be teaching evolution in church. If you studied the theological origins of the bible (taught by religious scholars) you would also know that the 'word' of god crap is something espoused by TV evangelists or anyone else who hasnt bothered to look into the origins of the book they base their entire lives around. It was written by human beings, over a several hundred year period, passed on in the oral tradition and not written down for about 30 years after Jesus' death, and many of the gospels written were rejected when the new testament was being assembled (so were those ones decided to be not by 'the hand of god' or did they just not make the cut?)
Freedom is the seperation between church and state. keep your religious beliefs to your home and church time. Leave science for the rest of the time, and get the log out of your eye you kamakaze idiot.

Anonymous said...

Someone wrote, "and get the log out of your eye you kamakaze idiot."

Umm, Doesn't the word Kamakaze, mean God(or spirt) of the Wind?
In english terms, it means Suicide attack.

Mr. Hardison! Congrats! According to one idiot, you are a wind god/spirit....Or you are a guy flying a plane and crashing it in to other planes, buildings...

Wow...That sounds like some other event. Does it not?

Darren said...

"Umm, Doesn't the word Kamakaze, mean God(or spirt) of the Wind?
In english terms, it means Suicide attack."

Actively encouraging climate change could be seen as idiotically suicidal, no?

"Mr. Hardison! Congrats! According to one idiot, you are a wind god/spirit....Or you are a guy flying a plane and crashing it in to other planes, buildings..."

one style of fundamentalism death-wish vs another. kind of apt, dont you think?

S. Winters said...

Darren said~
("Umm, Doesn't the word Kamakaze, mean God(or spirt) of the Wind?
In english terms, it means Suicide attack."

Actively encouraging climate change could be seen as idiotically suicidal, no?

"Mr. Hardison! Congrats! According to one idiot, you are a wind god/spirit....Or you are a guy flying a plane and crashing it in to other planes, buildings...")

one style of fundamentalism death-wish vs another. kind of apt, dont you think?"


Encouraging something that is bound to happen anyway? Something that has happened repeatedly over the course of how ever many years.
1.)The Earth is healing itself with global warming and cooling.
2.)We are not the "Murders" of our planet when it has been doing this to itself for MANY YEARS.


No one should be allowed to stand up for their rights in this country anymore. Look at where it has gotten us. People want rights, and when others fight for them, they get nailed by people all over that world.

This country NEEDS to become a Communist country. Maybe a few days in that kind of hell will make you people lighten up. Gobal warming is happening, get over it. Those TV Ads that show those kids telling you, "Tick" as if the time is running out. I can't wait till all the people around are crispy.
"Yup it happened." But it was bound to. "Let's fight it." Yeah, lets slow down the sun and Earth. That will help.

Anonymous said...

This world is sadly full of egregious assclowns like Frosty Hardison, who defy all reason. My deepest regret is that somehow a mindnumbing knob like "Frosty" is even given a moment's recognition. Worse still, he's bred seven innocents who will, no doubt, go forth and spread his distorted, uber-Christian, Twilight Zone view of life as we know it, after a growing up with the Circus of Inanity ringmaster. If any semblance of Frosty's beloved God is real, may she bless his children and endow them with enough sense to seek the truth of moderation, as opposed to that of their South Park centerpiece father.

Anonymous said...

Frosty annoys me just enough so as to warrant a bit of Google hacking. I thought I'd share so those interested my contact him directly and let him know what a giant dips**t he is.
Here's his email address:
growincllc@hotmail.com
Here's his old website:
http://www.geocities.com/f_Hardison/index
Here's the whois for his defunct "new " domain:
http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=fhardison.info&type=domain

Anonymous said...

If you are calling, looking at his webpage where he gives that infromation out willingly, "Google hacking" You are a moron....

A.J.F. said...

Anyone what CNN tonight with Larry King? Its kinda funny to see and MIT say the same thing that Frosty was both in the radio and a few papers I've read.
Then again, maybe you hard headed people don't seem to be the kind to let up after you've attcked someone for being right, when you yourself can't seem to open your eyes to what has been happening.

Mojoey said...

Wow - 25 comments. That is a first for my blog. Thanks for posting.

But... I just wanted to add. I don't have a problem with Frosty. How many kids he has, what he believes, what the age of the world is, it's all rock and roll (meaning, it does not matter). My problem is with people who listen to his obviously non-scientific postion and give it the same standing. The world is full of fundies with un-scientific world views. - like the sun is burning out? Really Frosty?

He speaks from ignorance and from the prespective of his religion - nobody in any position of authority should give his words more than a second of thought - they should laugh it off instead.

Anonymous said...

I know Frosty Hardison. Knew his late mother-in-law, met his wife. They are perfectly lovely people. When considering Al Gore, consider this, he lives in a home that uses more electricity in a month than most households use in a year, while Mr. Unpopular, President Bush (Junior) owns a ranch that is totally run on solar, wind and water power. All his farm vehicles including his truck run on non gasoline fuel!! Now that is an inconvenient truth! The man who won Academy Awards for his "documentary" and runs around espousing "green" living, lives like an extreme non-green resource glutton. Come to think of it Gore's waist line is sort of a give away on that score isn't it?

I'm not of the do as I say do not as I do paradigm. If someone wants me to follow them they need to lead by example and Gore never has done that. I am not going to debate the age of Earth. I believe Science and Religion can co-exist and some day when all has been revealed we will know the truth instead of operating on theory and supposition. If an Inconvenient Truth is going to be shown, it should be shown with disclaimers about it being one man's opinion. Many, many more scientist disagree with that documentary's allegations than agree with it. Do your own research and come to your own conclusions. Don't take mine, or anyone else's word for it. Accept responsibility for KNOWING the facts and then make a rational, informed decision on it all. Jane F, Seattle, Washington via Texas

Kaiser said...

Howdy. I also "know" Frosty. My aunt is his ex-wife, and i've been camping with the tard.

EVERYONE in my family who has come into contact with him is in agreement that he is a total jackass. oh and if youre such a great father to those 7 kids, why did your oldest one, Frosty III, run away when he was 13?

Anonymous said...

I find it interesting that a 2 hour conversation with several reporters can be whittled down from all the science and facts I DID QUOTE THEM, all in the name of selling newspapers and publishing the most outlandish things I did say during the entire interview.

Some do ask where is the science? My fellow Americans - as with most important things like the truth? It hit the editors floor to make me look foolish.

It's been almost three years now. Do you see the agenda unfolding? Do you hear them clamoring to tax you for being bad Americans and polluting the planet? Has Al Gore cut back on his waste to lead the way? Do you know what a carbon credit tax will do to you and your job? Do you know who will sell and stands to make $Billions selling carbon credits that will do nothing to improve the environment and everything to make a few more leaders in our oligarchy richer and wealthier?

Just saying is all.
Frosty Hardison