Friday, May 28, 2010

Thoughts on the likelihood of heaven

More than 30 years ago, back when I was a Christian, I could not rap my mind around the mind fuck known as heaven. I asked my clergy questions, the answers made my head hurt. I was not comforted by the knowledge that I would spend eternity with my family, friends, or even with Jesus. I wanted to know how heaven worked, because the concept of heaven as white lower middle class Americans understood it, did not make sense.

I remember asking about a friend's mother who went senile near the end of her life. What happens to her when she dies? Is heaven a place where her senility is cured and she is restored to health? Does she suddenly become the best possible version of herself? In heaven, is she an 18-year-old at the top of her physical beauty? Or is she 35, 50, or that brief period at 62 where she was healthy before the senility set in? The clergy's answers ranged from a vague living sprit of brimming with health and beauty with full knowledge of her life, to an old crone, cured of her illness, but locked in the form of an aged body. It boggled my mind.

More troubling are those who are damaged by illness or accident at a young age. I knew a girl who fell from a horse and became substantially less of a person. Her mental capabilities were affected by brain trauma. She became more child-like instead of growing into adulthood. She's still alive today, but needs care. When she dies, is it the fully cognizant 15-year-old child who goes to heaven or the 50-year-old adult with muddled memories from the past 35 years? Christians tell me she will be made whole. What does that mean?

I'm thinking about this because of my stepfather. He's facing a round of radiation therapy for a brain lesion and the doctors have warned that his personality might change. The old hypothetical scenarios came roaring back. If medical treatment can change who a person is, then what the hell happens in heaven? Is it my old stepfather or the new surgically improved one? What if the new personality is better? I have an unquiet mind, it need answers. I know the answer already; I've known the answer for 30 years. Heaven is a sham. It is a fiction made up to secure the services of the faithful. I've always known this, even back when I called myself a believer. If heaven exists, it's right here on earth. It's only around for as long as we live to enjoy it. My stepfather knows this intuitively. His heaven is a wife, grandchildren, a few friends, and a nice old hotrod.  It's why he fights to stay alive each day. What we have here on earth is all we will ever have, and I think it's worth fighting for too.

Comments (6)

Loading... Logging you in...
  • Logged in as
The easy answer is that there is no heaven and that anything that could possibly be called "I" ends as brain function ceases. But I agree that many of the issues you bring up here are interesting ways of approaching the question of what this "I" is in the first place. It isn't even so much a question of religion but a philosophical discussion on the nature of identity and personhood.
I always like the squirmy uncertain answer I get when it comes to fetuses and heaven.
Ack, the thought of heaven absolutely disturbs me. Are we "cured" of all those personality disorders we pick up from birth? Our entire identities are shaped by our experiences, both bad and good. Everyone is a little bit crazy and dysfunctional, but, that very thing is a huge part of our personality.

Would nasty church ladies still gossip and judge? Who would the typical southern god/guns/gays flunkie act superior around? C'mon!

If I were prone to believing anything outside of ceases to exist, I would hope it would involve being completely unchained to the ego. But what would any of us be then? Why an afterlife?

All a comforting fairy tale. As a non-theist, I did find it difficult to explain the death of a loved one to my child. It was awfully tempting to comfort her by alluding to that person still existing somewhere. I made a minor cop out, which was, nobody knows what happens. She's now 13 and a raging Pastafarian, so, I suppose that cop out wasn't too damaging. I just wonder, how many parents don't really believe, but perpetuate myths like this because it's easier to tell this to your children?
It is a better place then this hell suffering on earth.
2 replies · active less than 1 minute ago
What are you talking about? Most people I know don't suffer at all. They live normal lives full of love and loss. What is it about heaven that is better than looking into my son's eyes? pfft.
Why don't you go down to sub-Saharan Africa to live--permanently--with no hope of escape and get back to us about how sad your life is. While overweight white Christians rail on about how they're going to heaven, thousands of kids are dying of preventable disease and hunger every single day in unspeakable conditions. Yet you lot ask the lord to bless your gumbo and find you a parking space, no doubt.

You can have a fantasy life, no problem. I have perspective. I live in a fortunate society, my children are well, and life could be worse.

Post a new comment

Comments by