Youth leader Eric Caverly has the sex drive of a man in his early 20s if his boast of having sex with a teenaged girl up to 400 times is to be believed. The affair started when the girl…. wait a second here… the rapes started when the girl was 16. She was his babysitter.
The sexual relationship continued for most of the next three years, the documents show. The alleged victim would spend nights at the Caverly home, even a week or more at a time. The girl, who is now a 19-year-old woman, told investigators that most of the sexual encounters happened in the basement of Caverly's home.
The woman told investigators that the relationship with Caverly ended in October 2010 due to fighting between the two and Caverly's jealousy. The affidavit says she was forced to file a police report after revealing the sexual encounters to her parents and to her therapist.
I’ve learned that churches call a youth pastor a “lay youth leader” when they want to distance themselves from their former pastor’s crimes. Was Caverly a youth pastor? I’m betting that by most definitions the answer would be yes.
The babysitter angle is a new one. I’ll have to add that to the list of abuse vectors. I’m sure he will claim it was love.
Caverly worked at Springs Community Church in Colorado Springs. A check of their website shows no acknowledgement of the arrest or comments on the story. Check out their website. It raises all of my hackles. It’s hip. It’s fresh. It’s about building a relationship with the big guy upstairs. Oh, and pay no attention to the predator in our youth ministry.
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jayp · 734 weeks ago
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familyfriend · 734 weeks ago
By the way...you both have shown your own values by the vocabulary you use...I stick to the facts and don't call names...who's the adult here?
Mojoey 107p · 734 weeks ago
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emmeerose · 629 weeks ago
Rape: to seize or take away by force.
familyfriend, if you only knew.
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erthian 1p · 733 weeks ago
I'm 27 and 16 year old girls look like children to me, but I'm not around them all day either. Its easy to throw around labels like rape and use strong language to back up emotional responses to some thing we don't like, but its not always right. Its not that black and white.
I could say 'EVERY SOLDIER IN IRAQ IS A MURDER'. Would that be the same? Its true, killing is murder. Some times its not that simple.
Saying 'ANY ONE who tries to justify (x) is a sick bastard' is far more of a christian statement...
I KNOW WHAT I BELIEVE. ANY ONE WHO QUESTIONS IT IS JUST SICK IN THE HEAD!
Mojoey 107p · 733 weeks ago
erthian 1p · 733 weeks ago
Generally, laws back what is moral, but not always. For instance, laws that ban the growth and sales of Hemp in the united states.
Not to mention, its rape under the law if a male and female have sex, and both are legally intoxicated. Federal law says that the male is the aggressor and is taking advantage of the female, even if both are drunk (even if they are married, etc).
Furthermore, look up the Romeo and Juliet acts. I'm not implying that this falls under that act, but its an example of some thing that was 'rape' under the law, literally last month, and is now not illegal.
As an ardent atheist, you should understand that popular opinion is not always right.
Mojoey 107p · 732 weeks ago
Romeo and Juliet acts do not cover this situation.
erthian 1p · 732 weeks ago
We have the same problem.
"A pastor screwing his charges is an ethical a moral transgression and a violation of his duty of care for the young minds in his charge"
Its a moral transgression, yes. A violation of duty. Yes. So is, say, quitting a job with no notice. Or, say, leaving a job for some one else to do because you are too lazy. Or, in computers, making things so insanely complicated no one can take over your job in the future. Should these things be illegal?
Note again, I'm not saying it should be legal. Or illegal. I'm just saying, being amoral doesn't mean it should be illegal. Laws should back what is so dangerous to society we need protection from it, and as such, is amoral. Its a question of HOW BAD is fucking your 16 year old students when you are 37... Pretty bad.
But its just not not black and white. What if the charge is older then him? Shouldn't there be some leniency if its obvious it was a matter of 'love' (which in such a case is probably just horniness with justifications piled on top). Or, on the flip side of that coin, shouldn't coercion have to be proven to some extent? It might be hard to 'prove', but its pretty easy to see when intent is in question, and when some one is clearly taken advantage of. My problem with these laws is their senseless nature. IF YOU ARE UNDER 18 YOU CANNOT CONSENT. Or 16 or 15. Or what ever. This is just dumb... These girls are refered to as children at 17 and women at 18? Please...
Its just scary when ever people blindy, passionately, follow any law. Even murder, we should question its legitimacy as a law. EVERY THING. I mean, obviously murder is harmful to society. But with out analyzing it, how ever shallowly, you are following it blindly (taking it on faith).
So... Do I think what this man did should be illegal? In this case, were I a judge, I would have no choice but to convict him. There are no other outlets to prevent it from happening again. Should it be a felony, that carries prison and carries sex offender registration? Hell no. He should have an offense that can easily be found in a background check, but one that could be expunged with time, and that wouldn't ruin his life completely. Maybe there should be a list similar to the sex offender list that places who work with kids only have access to. You just go to the court house and get access. I don't know. But how it is now does not work, and does more harm.
See.. this is the main difference. Violent and child oriented offenders never change. These girls were close to adults. They look like adults. When I was 20 I found some 16 year olds attractive. I've met some girls that are 16 or 17 even now that I notice, but as soon as words spew out of their pubecent mouths, any presumption changes. I would be hard pressed to be attracted to any one who talks as such.
CHILDREN are not close to adults. They look like children. Some people like to get flogged with spatuals while they do it, some people like kids. They cant help it or change it. The ones who like kids, I feel bad for, sure, but we need to protect OUR children from them. They are a danger and should be monitored for the rest of their lives. The damage they do is irreverable and will cause them to have problems forever. But even in these cases, we need to find a way to deal with these people. Sex offender registries and socitial ignorance just seem to be making things worse. Many are going off the grid and just going down in flames because they cant function in society.
Saying some one who abuses their power is a child molester gives me the rage face, so much. Any one who trys to defend this position is a SICK FUCK!
Mojoey 107p · 732 weeks ago
My opinion here - A older youth pastor sleeping with his charges is morally wrong and should also be against the law. Let the poor bastard plead his case to the jury and then live with results. Perhaps it will serve as a deterrent to the next horny pastor.
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Mojoey 107p · 734 weeks ago
I did get the facts straight. In fact, I stated the facts and speculated on their nature.
And... you ignorant fuck, the law states she cannot be held responsible in the relationship no matter how much you want to paint her as a whore. Now serious, are you a Christian?
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